Archaeologist Federico Kauffmann, 98, offers an in-depth interview regarding his career and the presentation of the revised edition of his book "Cosmos Andino." Kauffmann, who grew up in the border region between the highlands and the jungle, emphasizes the importance of understanding Peru's archaeological past through language accessible to the general public. The researcher recounts his connection with figures such as José María Arguedas and Porras Barrenechea, while also explaining his work in studying the Chachapoyas culture and sites like Kuélap. During the conversation, Kauffmann reflects on the need to distinguish true patriotism from "patriotería" (pseudo-patriotism) and analyzes how geography and ecology determined the development of ancient Andean civilizations, emphasizing the resilience of their ancestors.